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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:34 pm

Does this mean you still have your original SD? I hope that rats was behind the front tyre. Was your pinched neck due to riding? how did your battery hold up under the R down time, was it on a tender? I was mowing my lawn this morning and I thought of you. Funny you should appear posting once I came in from my chores. I was thinking about how hard it is to find old growth Doug Fir and how the new farmed wood is pushed out of the ground with fertilizers and better sunshine from thinning the herd. This reminded me of you as you are now probably considered OLD Growth :lol: I got a hankering for the pacific northwest and may find myself up there sooner than the eighteenth of June Maybe Boise then turn left. I don't know how far north but probably not as far as Seattle.
My forks are at the suspension guru's as I type this and I am awaiting an original exhaust to crane into place. With a lever and a fulcrum Archimedes promises me I can get the original exhaust back in. I won't ride the SD touring but there are a few bikes in the garage that could get me there just fine. Crossed fingers
Good to see you reporting back in. For a while there I thought you flipped this site off while wheeling away :(
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DougFir » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:07 am

Yep on dual 08 SuperDukes in this household.
If you don't have the stock 28 pound muffler cat you can have mine as a gift.
I don't take kindly to bikes that leave me stranded, so I gave no love to the SDR, no life support as in a tender for a year.
It got a few days on the tender before I dug into it, found the bad wiring ground lug, and dam if it did not start right up.
Almost a year sent to the corner of the garage as I enjoyed the GSXR 1000.
Yea, I am getting old'er and thought if I don't scratch that GSXR itch soon, I will not be able to.
Have to say my last real ride on it was epic, east of home over the Cascade Mountains and back, 300 miles or so.
Been working my ass off, came home last fall and fell asleep in the Lazy Boy and my head rested on my chest.
I woke up with a real pain in the neck, thought it would go away, but it did not.
Got x-rayed, which showes Author Rides its built up on the spinal cord / vertebrates which is blocking the nerve bundles.
Lost feeling in my lest hand thumb and first finger.
Started up my Honda XR650R last week...had to flip the choke lever on first under the tank next to the cables and wires.
Reached down to flip the lever off when it started and dammm...could not feel the difference of the lever from a cable...
But hey...I am still riding at 67 and I thought I would never see 18.
Not sure how many miles this old frame has on it but I thought I counted up 500,000 miles ...10 /15 years ago or more.
Might have something to do with my pain in the neck.
I think you need to stop in my neck of the woods on your ride about so I can show you around.....
We had a hell of a winter and lost a lot of old trees.....good for guys like you...
We can visit a log mill that can still cut the big stuff..maybe they can set you up with some old growth Doug Fir CVG.
I have also been busy sitting on my ass building a motorcycle collection of photos and .....er ...other stuff on ADVrider.
I will add some links....Your going to like these....buy beware..they are huge time sinks...
Post up when you get closer to heading this way north ans we can work out some good RR. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Later..
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DougFir » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:47 am

DD wrote:
"I got a hankering for the pacific northwest and may find myself up there sooner than the eighteenth of June Maybe Boise then turn left. I don't know how far north but probably not as far as Seattle."
Hey DD.
Hum....you know Cali and Oregon are BIG states...right?
How much time ya got ?
Instead of a big but burn, maybe do a quality ride instead of quantity ?
Columbia Gorge.
Mt Rainier.
Mt Hood.
John Day Painted Hills.
Oregon Coast.
Crater Lake.
Boise can be hotter than a $2 pistol, but go north of there in the Sawtooth it cools down.
Love northern Idaho. Look up Lolo Motorway...Not Hwy 12...Lolo MOTORWAY...land bridge on mountain tops trail used by Indians trading gooods between PNW and the plains.
But you need an ADV bike..or a bike you can bash the bottom belly with out leaking fluids.
Lewis and Clark used the trail and you can use the same camp sites they used. Little if nota changed.
The home of Grizz and elk..wilderness.

Seattle sucks on a bike...you need a cage to get around up there, but it still sucks..

Hum,,,no feed back from my links, eh?...Guess some are learry on where it will take them....it's all good stuff...no BS...
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:43 am

I'm half packed and will leave Tuesday. I have to be back the nineteenth for a wood ceiling install on a new hotel. I looked at your links and decided to stay left and hit areas around Corvalis? Crater Lake and have lunch on that eighty-five foot long table if I can find it. I got an old buddy that lives in fort Jones Ca. and will ride through there and take in hi way 36. All camping and riding probably not land at a campground for more than a night. We shall see. I'm not nuts on ocean scenes or sand camping so coastal range meandering is my M.O.
I have no idea where the hell you are but I have a feeling I will not north of Eugene or East of Bend. I have no goal or have to see items sort of ride and stay way away from anything that claims to be Interstate. I was even going to slow it down further and take my 88gs but it needs an exhaust flange welded and I forgot she is out of service. Two layers and smooth fire roads.
If you are south of Eugene we will drink.

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I remounted my forks today I told my springologist that I was perfectly happy with the compliance of the forks and that I just wanted new seals and a oil refresh. I said I don't need or want a different feel. He said that the forks had 122mm of air gap and that 110mm was the factory spec but he left them at 122 as that is what I had. They were not leaking and maybe just maybe the level could have changed from years of minor seepage but either way if he thought that it was an issue I believe he would have voiced concern, he did not. What does this site think?
I have heard of air gaps being a way to tune suspension along with viscosity changes but I am not educated on such items. We were both busy and I guess I should have asked but...
I am buying a summer home in Tennessee so I will locate the Superduke to that place as the roads are shit here and quite frankly It really serves little purpose here except maybe on a track. I'll be in Tennessee-North Carolina the week of the Fourth of July finding a pile of fixer-upper with a secure garage.
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DougFir » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:59 am

DD,
I am a few miles from Corvallis.
Aim for that town.
Been a long time since I hung out on this web site.
Don't see a way to send a PM (personal message).
Need your phone # or e-mail address or...? ?
join ADVriders.com
We can send PM's EZPZ. free..
I am on ADV a few times a day.

ps...It's getting hot up here.

Cheers
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:14 am

Look just under the posters info you'll see PM also at the title bar you'll see new messages
I'm PMing you now with critical information
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby Sarasota_Steve » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:43 pm

DribbleDuke wrote:Look just under the posters info you'll see PM also at the title bar you'll see new messages
I'm PMing you now with critical information

Dribble,
You’ve got my phone number now. I’m moving full time to North GA in September. A typical ride usually includes TN and NC. It will be nice riding with a quiet 990 for a change. ;)
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:17 am

Okay, so here is the deal. Remember when I said or should I say typed that it would be cool to hook up a Battery Tender lead that did not have to hang out in the same place as the battery and terminals. Well I went for my new exhaust anchor maiden voyage today to check out a new job site. Pulled the bike out, got ATGATT and turned the ignition key...nothing. Pushed the bike back in feeling dejected and familiar as this has happened to me on too many to count occasions. Pulled the trusty other bike out and headed on my way after seeing my wife off in her Honda reliable car. I cursed the SD and told her I hope this bike doesn't behave like that last pieceofshit I had. She said "you should have bought a Honda" :o . Well upon return I diagnosed the problem while searching the inter web and then back out to the bike. The or should I say A relay was ticking away under the seat and I diagnosed my problem to be a faulty relay. Took nap returned with the bet that I should dig deeper into the ground issue. Doug deep and found a busted terminal on the ground side of battery. By terminal I mean the battery post was broke loose. Problem solved with a new LEAD ACID battery showing up in a couple of days.
So now, it may have been that the extra wires and terminals that were put in place to install the Battery Tender lead caused undo stress on all the goings on down there. That said I am bound and determined to fashion a lead that uses the SAE terminal connector that joyfully plugs my battery tender in connected to spade connectors that plug into the ACC2 terminals. I'll dangle the lead out just far enough out the headlamp assembly for easy access and this will allow pixies to flow into the battery during non use periods. I think.
It was a bit strange to see lithium iron batteries down to the same price range as the more expensive( but probably no better) lead acid batteries. I want to just hop on my bike and ride like I use to do when I rode Hondas. You know how many bikes I have brought back from the grave, remnants leaning on the outside of a garage wall with a ripped tarp covering one third of the bike. Rub clean squirt oil pump up WD40 massage kick and away they go coughing and sputter ing themselves back from the grave, why can't the Superduke behave. Its like the uncoachable little leaguers.
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby RichUK » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:45 am

Having sorted all the little issues/niggles on mine I sat back contented... Obviously my 1190 Adv saw this and so last week decided to start leaking from the clutch master. That'll be £55 for a clutch piston kit then sir....

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Re: Well I did it again

Postby PBRnr » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:34 pm

Welcome back! And check your PM's
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby SDNerd » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:51 pm

Travels, travels, travels ... Absolutely envious of the time you guys have to eat up roads. :mrgreen:
Back to the title topic
I remounted my forks today I told my springologist that I was perfectly happy with the compliance of the forks and that I just wanted new seals and a oil refresh. I said I don't need or want a different feel. He said that the forks had 122mm of air gap and that 110mm was the factory spec but he left them at 122 as that is what I had. They were not leaking and maybe just maybe the level could have changed from years of minor seepage but either way if he thought that it was an issue I believe he would have voiced concern, he did not. What does this site think?
I have heard of air gaps being a way to tune suspension along with viscosity changes but I am not educated on such items. We were both busy and I guess I should have asked but...


That extra 12mm of air is going to make a huge difference in the giant SD forks. Just kidding. If that's what you like - then that's what you like. You are likely to get a slightly different feel regardless, with well-cleaned fork internals, new seals, and fresh oil - depending on how bad/old the old fluid was.

I'm sure you know that a certain amount of oil is needed for the forks to work properly. Both for lubricity (a piston-cylinder arrangement), and for the valves to control the rate of travel as a function of force. As you also well know, air is compressible - and that's what happens: When the forks compress, so does the air volume, and therefore has a spring-like effect. More air volume (less oil) is like having a slightly softer spring. In other words, a larger initial volume of air will result in less of a pressure change when the fork shortens a fixed amount.

Suspension oil viscosity affects the function of the valves. Likely obvious, the thicker the oil (higher viscosity, often associated with "weight"), the lower the velocity the oil will pass through the various orifices and over shim stacks that make up "valves" - for a given force applied. WP specifies 5W in the SD forks, but there's a surprising range of viscosities in 5W fork oils, and as it turns out, the lower the viscosity the fork oil, the poorer the lot-to-lot consistency of the viscosity. I'll skip over why this is ... Why does WP and Ohlins design to 5W? When a lower viscosity oil gets warm, it doesn't change in viscosity as much as heavier weight fork oils. The forks perform more consistently as a function of temperature. Some suspension houses prefer to design their stacks around slightly heavier weights (e.g. 7W), as there's a belief that there's a better consistency in the viscosity of the oils from the manufacturer lot-to-lot (they have better control in making the stuff), with little compromise in the thermal effects on the viscosity. As for "tuning" by changing fork oil weight/viscosity - is a poor-man's attempt at changing the valve's responsivity, without changing the valving/stacks. Sometimes, it works to people's liking. Was, and still is popular to do on damper on damper rod forks. Yes - oil weights can be mixed to achieve intermediate viscosities (I suggest using the same brand, and product series), if desired.

OK - way more than anyone asked for. But there it is. Thank (or blame) Paul Thede, Andrew Trevitt, and a bunch of really smart people with letters before and after their names, that gave me some pieces of paper that suggest I learned something from them.

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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:27 am

Thank you nerd that is exactly what I was looking for. I did not dislike the ride before maintenance and was happy to have it stay the same. Funny thing is , it did not stay the same. I will adjust things soon but I was told that the setting would not be messed with during the work performed. I want to say the forks are harsher at initial bite in their travel and rebound has not changed.
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:30 am

RichUK wrote:Having sorted all the little issues/niggles on mine I sat back contented... Obviously my 1190 Adv saw this and so last week decided to start leaking from the clutch master. That'll be £55 for a clutch piston kit then sir....

I did not think that you could get a master rebuild kit. Always something SD spending downtime
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:02 pm

Back from my Tennessee trip and bought a house in Elizabethton will move a pickup truck and SD back there in the fall if all goes well. The roads I took around those parts beg for two wheels only and I am well on my way now to creating the dream. I need to find a quality home inspector in the general vicinity.
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby Willh » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:37 pm

Awesome.
Did you miss the quakes?
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:10 am

Willh wrote:Awesome.
Did you miss the quakes?

Yes, I saw it on the news. I have traveled many times through Ridgecrest as that is a way east for many of my bike journeys. China Lake military base is well used for training foreign pilots on how to fly their new fighter planes they purchase from our great military industrial complex. The trouble is they end up in what is California hell hole that is miles from the cool ( literally, and poetically ) rest of Ca.
The Searles valley salt mines look like out of this world. If you need to have earthquakes, better there.
Would not surprise many it's the gateway to Death Valley. My son was in Los Angeles for the Fourth of July weekend and he said it shook down there pretty well.
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:46 pm

Well
Just a few modifications to planned life changes.
First off, remember when I said that I like the SD decibel rating with the stock exhaust. Well what I do not like is the little bit less performance form stock factory creations. There was a thread started that begged the question from a person who resides in the town in which I was born, Livermore Ca., "Do the cheap E-Bay exhausts from Eastern Europe have enough quality to make them a good purchase?" My remark to said poster was buy the used Akrapovic you won't be disappointed. He didn't and they kept begging my attention, they got it and now they sit in my garage waiting for my machined parts that were missing to show up. So all that searching and posting and PayPal transacting was now for not.
Soon to be scAring mother's and children in Tennessee.
Yes Tennessee. My original house purchase fell through from me being too greedy. So I bought a lot site unseen In Elizabethton TN.
I planned to build a little house and big shop, yes that is the word planned. Planned all the way up to the point in time when I flew back to check out my land acquisition and as I was putting that town in my rearview rental car mirror I chanced upon a for sale by owner house that is perfect for my needs. It is little house with a huge lot right across the street is a river.The Doe river. Anyone want to buy a lot three blocks away from my new house?
I'm selling my house in Ca. as I cannot afford maintaining both and live the life style I have become accountable to.
The new house closes in November, possibly sooner so I will pack up a few items and winter in Tn.
I am pleased that I bought the SD and that bike and more likely my Duke II are going to be a kick in the pants up some of those Hollow Roads.
As a side plus when I was early to the Knoxville airport on my way home I had time to do Hiway 129 to the tail of the dragon in a rental car. Yes it was a fuckinblast. Drive it like you rented it.
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby Willh » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:32 pm

I was in myrtle beach mid August and was wondering how you are going to like the south.
I know, botts dotts and curves...
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:40 am

Willh wrote:I was in myrtle beach mid August and was wondering how you are going to like the south.
I know, botts dotts and curves...

It's funny how Tennessee is considered the south as it is on the same latitude as Los Alamos Ca. Yes no Bott's dots and plenty curves. I can't wait. This will be a tremendous area for sport touring as there are great four day escapes all around here. Virginia Internation Raceway is probably my closest track and a great track at that. Mostly because there is plenty of run off :oops:
House closes on Oct. 21 and I will time my leave here to do the walk through. I am bringing two bikes A 88 GS and the Duke II as there is no garage as of yet and I'll squeeze them into a garden shed. The SD will come out mid summer all willing.
The Minnesota Twins have a farm league team in Elizabethton and I am thinking of sponsoring a team member that can shelter in my abode and earn some summer cash building a giant shop-garage.
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby SDNerd » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:12 am

Is the place officially yours now (or the bank's, perhaps, depending on how you see it ...)?

If so - congratulations!

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Re: Well I did it again

Postby DribbleDuke » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:23 pm

SDNerd wrote:Is the place officially yours now (or the bank's, perhaps, depending on how you see it ...)?

If so - congratulations!

I'm sitting in my new kitchen in Tennessee right now. I just had internet service hooked up and am searching sump pump basement pumps websites. I have never lived in a house with a basement so there is a bit of a learning curve as to what to watch out for and how much to freak out leaving a house unattended through the winter. I paid cash so the house is all mine. I will sell my house in Los Alamos in the spring as much as it pains me to do so. I cannot afford both. I built the house and put much energy and self into the creation. Nerd, I was at Lowes in Elizabethton ordering a special beam hanger, the gal helping me was from San Diego and moved out to Tennessee last year.
She said it was a real culture change that has taken the whole year to adjust to but feels better now.
You can check out my home creation that I will sell in spring on Zillow under "make me move" Los Alamos Ca.
I figure that some one will have more money than brains and can afford to pay too much for a one off home. They say that there is one born every minute.
We have nice weather today so I am off exploring my new surrounds on my 88gs. I just brought one bike out here for now till spring when I start the new shop-garage. You can see the new Elizabethton Tennessee home on Zillow 421 Riverside Dr. Hearing the sound of the river while sitting on the front porch is heavenly.
I'll be back at bending nails in California soon but for now I'm pretending to be retired.
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Re: Well I did it again

Postby SDNerd » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:15 pm

Reads like the change is going to suit you well. The cultural differences may be the hardest part to adapt to, but that's what fine Bourbon is sometimes for.

While my recent daily ride was receiving some well-deserved TLC, I've been riding the SD daily for the last several weeks. Usually returning home in the dark at workday's end, the damn bike still encourages bad behavior. It seems to run best, while absolutely hammering it in the cool of the evening. Thinking on it, It's like the bike was developed in secret, after business hours; parts bins raided by a small cadre of engineers, technicians and test riders. Testing taking place only at night, on Austrian alpine roads. I can imagine the surprise on some Director's face when somebody popped off with "... we've been working on 'this thing' ...", where it was swiftly handed over to the good folks at Kiska to dress up. If you've ever had opportunity to engage with Austrian engineers, you would understand that this is entirely possible as to how it went down.

Sometimes I wonder why I hang on to this 11-year-old machine. It's just a "thing" - right? Riding it in a manner where I may end up in jail or the morgue, I guess it's the no-nannies, unadulterated purity of it that continues to bring smiles. Something needed most days after work. Beats the fook out of "... going to the gym ...".

I hope you continue to find this same joy, in your new surrounds.

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