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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:38 am

SjwNz wrote:Hi kevxtx

With the 10% reduction in slots, did this correct the speedo at all speeds
like in 50, 60 80km zones. I moved the needle on my vans speedo to read spot on 100kms with a GPS but
I knew all the lower speeds would still be out.

I am not into these mods to make big money I would only put a small mark up on them for my time to get them made & posted.

You can charge me extra for been a dick.


Speedo seems to be on par with the GPS at all speeds up to a undisclosed speed :D .

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:42 am

kevxtx wrote:
Aphex wrote:
kevxtx wrote:Once I have tested the 44T ABS rings I will find a cheaper laser cutter as I paid Oz$120.00 for 2 fronts & 2 rears. The 44s will cost me another $120.00 in the name of research + I paid for kev2 ABS rings as he drew them up for me, it is a bit unfair to ask for the CAD files when I have paid $240 of my own money for all the research. The 43's are dead on the GPS speed +-1kph, I would be happier with a few kms of a over reading Speedo for tyre wear compensation.

I will post the 44T results as soon as I get them & let you guys know what I can get the ABS rings down to in price, I am not into these mods to make big money I would only put a small mark up on them for my time to get them made & posted.

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby The12thTinkerer » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:39 pm

Good to see a fix for this! I could use set as well...
I decided to check mine againt GPS yesterday, used my android phone and Ulysse speedometer it was
100% accurate in my 370Z. made a quick reference chart and taped it to the handlebar started up Diablo
Super Biker and went for a ride! good app to later check my speed anywhere along my ride.
So for my US model..
Target Speed on left and MPH over needed on the right. I still need to get any with a ?
Trying to get anything between 20 and 30 mph under 4000 rpm was fun erm not really :roll:
20-22 ? 2 mph difference
25-27
30-34 4 mph difference
40-44
45-49
50-54
55-59 ?
60-67 ? 7 mph difference
65-72
70-77
75-82 ?
My quick reference chart
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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:02 am

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If anyone is interested I have managed to get my Titanium supplier in China to get some Titanium bolt sets made up for our brake rotors. http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/m.html?_odkw ... m&_sacat=0

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby epv » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:44 am

Has anyone determined whether the inaccuracy is exactly the same for both speedo and odometer, or whether they are wrong by different ratios, or if in fact the odometer is actually inaccurate at all? This is definitely the case on some vehicles, so I was just wondering.

I'd rather have an accurate speedo, of course, but it would be interesting to know whether the speedo is deliberate skewed in software while the odometer isn't, or what.

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby ktmguy » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:20 am

epv wrote:Has anyone determined whether the inaccuracy is exactly the same for both speedo and odometer, or whether they are wrong by different ratios, or if in fact the odometer is actually inaccurate at all? This is definitely the case on some vehicles, so I was just wondering.

I'd rather have an accurate speedo, of course, but it would be interesting to know whether the speedo is deliberate skewed in software while the odometer isn't, or what.


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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:20 am

Ok the 44's are reading + 2% over my GPS, the 43's were +- 1km @ 100KPH. I will get a one off batch of 44's cut up soon. It is so nice to finally have a Speedo that reads correctly.

I also fitted some Titanium bolts with the 44T's today. http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/m.html?_odkw ... m&_sacat=0

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby Rozz » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:38 am

kevxtx wrote:Ok the 44's are reading + 2% over my GPS, the 43's were +- 1km @ 100KPH. I will get a one off batch of 44's cut up soon. It is so nice to finally have a Speedo that reads correctly.

I also fitted some Titanium bolts with the 44T's today. http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/m.html?_odkw ... m&_sacat=0


Also bought the Ti bolts off your china guy :D
Hope you guys will make the rings available for us...me would like a set :mrgreen:

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:46 am

I post all my other bike mods Worldwide so no problem to the US or any other country, I won't be making them all the time but will run off a few batches & see how we go.

The other unknown that I don't know the answer for, has the speedo been corrected on the 2015 models if there is any difference between the 14's & 15's the ABS rings will show a different result. I have sent ktmguy a PM as I want to send him a set to try for us to confirm, if he is to busy over the next week or so I will need a local rider in Brisbane to test them for me?

Once I get the pricing next week I will know how much it will all cost & how many guys that want a set?

1/ ktmguy paid
2/ rozz
3/ jaman
4/ Growler84
5/ sjwNZ
6/ GJB
7/ DukeSuper14
8/ Tripped1
9/ Swifty
+ I have a whole lot of guys on the SMT forum that want them as well.
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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby Growler48 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:50 am

Just curious, why are you going with the 44s when the 43s are a little more accurate? Is that to account for tyre wear?
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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby DukeSuper14 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:18 am

I would like a set when they are ready. USA

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:20 am

Growler48 wrote:Just curious, why are you going with the 44s when the 43s are a little more accurate? Is that to account for tyre wear?


Yes for tyre wear.

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby lc4 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:23 am

I think you should send a set to KTM :roll:

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby lc4 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:58 am

It would be of interest to fit a 60 height front tyre in place of the standard 70 (about a 25mm difference in diameter) and see where the speedo reads.


Edit: Had a quick search and found reducing in height from a 70 to 60 would bring the speedo reading within 1km of the true speed (working on 8% over read at 100kph)
I`d be sticking to the "sharper" 70 height tyre though :wink:

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby ktmguy » Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:55 am

lc4 wrote:I think you should send a set to KTM :roll:


They don't need them, they can adjust the pulse per km ratio in the software and it's done..... but...... :roll:
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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:30 am

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:29 am

Ok guys got the ABS ring quote back today, before I go any further I am looking at numbers I can get 100 sets cut that is 200 ABS rings unpainted posted to most countries for Australian $100.00 per set, if the price does not suit I will not be going any further with the mod, as the aim of this mod was to correct my Speedo which I have done. If we could fit a Speedo healer to our 1290's it would cost Oz $150 including postage but they don't work on these 1290's

So that is Oz$100.00 including postage unpainted, postage which is included for this weight is Approx. $25.00 & would take 7 to 10 working day to most countries, I will not post to Africa or anywhere in South America. Payment via PayPal directly to my mate, I will be packing & posting the ABS rings. The postage cost does not include online tracking.

I am still looking for a 2015 model 1290 so I can confirm it will work on that year but can confirm it will work on 2013 & 2014 builds.

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby Rozz » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:27 am

kevxtx wrote:Ok guys got the ABS ring quote back today, before I go any further I am looking at numbers I can get 100 sets cut that is 200 ABS rings unpainted posted to most countries for Australian $100.00 per set, if the price does not suit I will not be going any further with the mod, as the aim of this mod was to correct my Speedo which I have done. If we could fit a Speedo healer to our 1290's it would cost Oz $150 including postage but they don't work on these 1290's

So that is Oz$100.00 including postage unpainted, postage which is included for this weight is Approx. $25.00 & would take 7 to 10 working day to most countries, I will not post to Africa or anywhere in South America. Payment via PayPal directly to my mate, I will be packing & posting the ABS rings. The postage cost does not include online tracking.

I am still looking for a 2015 model 1290 so I can confirm it will work on that year but can confirm it will work on 2013 & 2014 builds.


I`m in :D
Did you powder coat your rings or only spray paint them?

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:54 am

The ABS rings that were cut for me were all test pieces I had to de-bur them & only gave them a quick coat of spray paint, I will pull them off again & do a proper paint job on them later.

As these ABS rings are modifying your Speedo reading I am not responsible for any speeding fines or anything related to this modification.

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby Rozz » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:21 am

kevxtx wrote:The ABS rings that were cut for me were all test pieces I had to de-bur them & only gave them a quick coat of spray paint, I will pull them off again & do a proper paint job on them later.

As these ABS rings are modifying your Speedo reading I am not responsible for any speeding fines or anything related to this modification.


Duh..... :mrgreen:

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby Swifty » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:39 pm

I'd like a pair please. (Melbourne)

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby kevxtx » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:18 pm

1/ ktmguy posted
2/ rozz
3/ jaman
4/ Growler84
5/ sjwNZ
6/ GJB
7/ DukeSuper14
8/ Tripped1
9/ Swifty
10/ Dukem
11/ FFlash
12/ Thomas-M
13/ suchy
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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby Rozz » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:01 pm

kevxtx wrote:1/ ktmguy posted
2/ rozz
3/ jaman
4/ Growler84
5/ sjwNZ
6/ GJB
7/ DukeSuper14
8/ Tripped1
9/ Swifty
10/ Rozz


1 set is enough for me haha

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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby Dukem » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:23 am

One set please
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Re: 1290 Speedo Correction

Postby FFlash » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:01 pm

I'll take one!

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